Harper Talks Episode 40 — Jeremy Lucas (.mp3)
A self-proclaimed “theater kid” from the age of 7, Jeremy Lucas’ passion led him to
pursue theater education at Harper College, Illinois State University, and ultimately
earning his BFA from Roosevelt University. Jeremy joins Harper Talks and discusses
his education, founding Jaxx Theatricals, a full inclusion theatre company and performing
arts education nonprofit in Los Angeles, his international experiences
as a Cultural Arts Envoy for the U.S. Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs Exchange
Program where he helps bring American musical theatre all over the world, and the
honor of being named a 2024 Harper College Distinguished Alumnus.
Transcript
Harper Talks: The Harper Alumni Podcast
Show 40: Jeremy Lucas – Harper Talks — Transcript
[00:00:00.380] - Marie Lapidus
I'm Marie Lapidus sitting in this episode for Brian Shelton, and you're listening
to Harper Talks, a coproduction of Harper College Alumni Relations and Harper Radio.
Today on Harper Talks, I'm excited to speak with Jeremy Lucas. Jeremy is a graduate
of Harper College and a co-founder and Artistic Director of Jaxx Theatricals. Jeremy
joined me in the WHCM studio in Building A while on campus to receive the 2024 Distinguished
Alumni Award. Thanks for being here. We're very proud of you.
[00:00:32.960] - Jeremy Lucas
Thank you, Marie. I'm honored to be here. Thank you for having me.
[00:00:35.550] - Marie Lapidus
Absolutely. I would like to lead into this because we already mentioned Jaxx theatrical,
so I think people will get a a clue of what we're going to be talking about. Were
you always a theater kid?
[00:00:47.130] - Jeremy Lucas
Since I was seven years old.
[00:00:49.020] - Marie Lapidus
How did you get started? What did you do when you were seven?
[00:00:52.600] - Jeremy Lucas
My family, we were at church, and I had walked by the What is it call it, the church?
The auditorium. It's probably not the name. They were rehearsing for the best Christmas
pageant ever. I stopped and I said, What is that? What's going on in that room? The
rest is history. That was the beginning.
[00:01:16.130] - Marie Lapidus
That was the beginning.
[00:01:17.240] - Jeremy Lucas
That was seven years old. It truly is a calling.
[00:01:19.890] - Marie Lapidus
Seven years old. That's fantastic. Before we go into the details of how it was for
you here, why did you pick Harper? Or why or how did it lead to Harper for you? From
the seven years old, we're going to jump right into college.
[00:01:38.610] - Jeremy Lucas
Yes. I had visited two state schools. I don't know if I should name them, but the
towns that I visited, being a city mouse, as I fancy myself, I could not see myself
living in those little towns.
[00:01:53.760] - Marie Lapidus
Yes.
[00:01:55.010] - Jeremy Lucas
And so it was pretty late that I made the decision. And then luckily and grateful,
I was able to get into Harper for my first year. And so I went here for my freshman
year of college.
[00:02:04.360] - Marie Lapidus
For your freshman year. And so while you were involved in the speech team here, you
were involved in the dance team, in theater. What was your time like here when you
were here for that one year?
[00:02:15.900] - Jeremy Lucas
It was great. I had so much fun. I had acting classes with Mary Jo Willis, dance classes
with Gretchen Schmalz, and actually my best friend Lauren, who nominated me, who's
here with me today, she was able to take the dance classes with me as a community
member. Then I was on the speech team with Coach Patty Ferguson, and that's where
I had the most fun because we would travel and compete at speech events, and then
we'd have overnight stays traveling. That was a lot of fun my freshman year.
[00:02:47.970] - Marie Lapidus
You mentioned all of these faculty that I don't know because I started after you were
here.
[00:02:53.910] - Jeremy Lucas
It's a long time ago. (laughs)
[00:02:55.350] - Marie Lapidus
It's been a little bit. But tell me a little bit more about your relationship with
the faculty. Did they guide you more into theater? What was that relationship like?
[00:03:06.610] - Jeremy Lucas
Yes, I remember Mary Jo being very charismatic. I took to her really well, and that
was the acting classes. I loved her acting class. Gretchen, I took jazz dance with
her, and I think ballet, and I loved dance. Learning from her was really fun and fundamental
and definitely useful for my future dance classes. Then the most fun I had, I think,
was on the speech team, and I learned so much just going on these speech meets, not
I was on the speech team in high school, too, but then it was in college. It's a whole
different ball game. That was really fun. She and her boyfriend, and her husband,
Tim, were very much mentors to me. I remember having a really good time with them
and learning a lot.
[00:04:01.110] - Marie Lapidus
Absolutely. I wanted to ask you, besides your theater classes and dance and speech
that you did, what was your actual major here? Was it just Gen Eds? Just an AA that
you were getting? Did you take other classes and you were bored because you love theater?
[00:04:18.210] - Jeremy Lucas
I did get some general Eds out of the way. I do remember that, and those were fine
and good. I think I was a theater major. I don't really remember because I had the
intention of going to a state school, and then my sophomore year, I went to Illinois
State, which wasn't as small of a town as those other ones that I initially visited.
I was happy there, and that was a great experience as well. But at Harper, I guess
I would imagine I was a theater major.
[00:04:46.190] - Marie Lapidus
Okay. Then I think you have next step. After Harper, you said you went to Illinois
State. Was there Roosevelt at some point?
[00:04:56.810] - Jeremy Lucas
Yes. My junior and senior year, I graduated from the Chicago College of Performing
Arts at Roosevelt University. I believe it was the first year of the program that
was integrated theater with music, voice, and dance. I think it was the inaugural
class.
[00:05:14.690] - Marie Lapidus
Okay. Exciting. Of that program. Exciting. Then after that, you founded Jaxx Theatricals.
[00:05:20.930] - Jeremy Lucas
Yes.
[00:05:21.810] - Marie Lapidus
In LA. What does Jack's Theatricals actually do? What is that about?
[00:05:29.070] - Jeremy Lucas
Our mission is to develop creativity, inspire self-expression, and promote self-esteem
through fully inclusive arts education, youth outreach, and live performance. In that
time, we're 18 now. We're 18 years old. We're grownups. We've worked at over 50 schools,
theaters, and camps throughout LA County, four different school districts, arts education
programs after school, and school. Then we also, unrelated but related because it's
still arts related, is we're cultural arts envoiced to the USA representing American
musical theater. We go around the world and produce Broadway style reviews with introducing
musical theater to different countries who don't really understand or know what our
truly American art form is here.
[00:06:23.880] - Marie Lapidus
Okay. It's a lot. It's a lot. I want to go back a little bit to what you're doing.
You are providing arts education into the elementary schools, middle schools, high
schools?
[00:06:37.980] - Jeremy Lucas
High schools, all ages.
[00:06:39.290] - Marie Lapidus
All ages, all throughout California or throughout the United States?
[00:06:43.560] - Jeremy Lucas
Well, LA County. La County. That's specific to LA County. Yes. Okay.
[00:06:48.240] - Marie Lapidus
You have students coming. Do they do that during school time or is it an after-school
an activity? Both.
[00:06:55.200] - Jeremy Lucas
We have both kinds of programs. It's all about what the school has funding for or
what they I want, but we do both.
[00:07:01.460] - Marie Lapidus
Okay. You have lots of students. Have you had students graduating who've gone on to
do theater? I mean, you are in LA, so begs the question, right? Do they go on and
do theater work?
[00:07:16.010] - Jeremy Lucas
Yes. Our students are at some of the top musical theater schools in the country now,
which is really exciting.
[00:07:22.880] - Marie Lapidus
Yes. That's fun.
[00:07:24.060] - Jeremy Lucas
Yeah, super fun seeing them take off.
[00:07:26.410] - Marie Lapidus
Well, it's just fun for us to see you come back as a Distinguished Alumni. It's going
to be fun for you to do a Distinguished Alumni. Yes. And have them come back and talk
about their experiences. How exciting. How exciting for that. So my next question
for you is about your cultural arts envoy for the US. So you've been traveling and
representing the United States. Where have you gone? Where has that taken you?
[00:07:55.630] - Jeremy Lucas
So the first one was in Bakhu, Azerbaijan. And we worked with two schools there. The
second one was in Suva, Fiji. That's my favorite one I've done so far. That was with
two professional groups. It was with the singers from Disney's Moana film. Then a
professional dance group in Fiji. Then most recently in 2022, I went to Tunisia, and
we worked with two or three groups there. The really special thing is across the world,
there are singers, and there are dancers, and there are actors. But teaching the singers
or showing the singers that they can dance and the dancers can sing, and it's all
based in acting is really the most special thing that represents American musical
theater is integrating the three art forms into one, which is musical theater. It's
my favorite gig. It's the best. We have a great time doing it.
[00:08:57.690] - Marie Lapidus
Excellent. When you are going to these countries, have you learned languages?
[00:09:03.270] - Jeremy Lucas
My husband is better at learning the languages. The first time in Azerbaijan, I had
a translator because they spoke for not very much English at all. Then in Fiji, obviously,
they would teach us Fijian words, which was fun. Mula. In Tunisia, Tunisian speak,
I think it's Tunsi first, and then they learn French, and then they learn English.
Their English was quite good. Okay. No real language barriers, like occasionally words.
But they would teach us mostly JD. I know a little French. I took French in high school,
I know a little, but my husband JD was really good about learning Arabic.
[00:09:50.210] - Marie Lapidus
Oh, wow.
[00:09:50.690] - Jeremy Lucas
Much better than me.
[00:09:52.310] - Marie Lapidus
Wow. Yes.
[00:09:53.340] - Jeremy Lucas
I shake.
[00:09:55.910] - Marie Lapidus
Then did you pick up any of their Share cultural music and dances where you get to
experience that as well?
[00:10:06.150] - Jeremy Lucas
Yes. And that's actually something really special. Each place is so happy to share
their culture. And so it's so different from the American view on culture. They just
want to share it, and they love to dress this up. They really are so proud of showing
us their culture. So We love it.
[00:10:32.300] - Marie Lapidus
Do you get to take students with you, or is it just you are going as a group?
[00:10:38.640] - Jeremy Lucas
Jd and I go there, and then we teach them everything from how to put on the show,
the singing, the acting, the dancing, all the different numbers from the musical theater
repertoire. Then JD is really good about showing them the technical aspects, like
lights and microphones. We really produce a big show.
[00:11:01.170] - Marie Lapidus
A big show. Do you get to stay there the whole time and produce a show?
[00:11:04.930] - Jeremy Lucas
Yes.
[00:11:05.460] - Marie Lapidus
Oh, that's interesting. Yes. That's exciting to do that. Yeah. With a translator the
whole time.
[00:11:11.930] - Jeremy Lucas
Well, just the first time.
[00:11:13.140] - Marie Lapidus
Just the first one, yes.
[00:11:14.410] - Jeremy Lucas
Just the first time.
[00:11:15.430] - Marie Lapidus
Yes. How long does it take to do a production like that? How long are you usually
there for? About a month. About a month? Yes.
[00:11:23.580] - Jeremy Lucas
Okay. This next one we're going on will be November, December. We're going to do two.
We'll do one in the capital city of Tunis, and then we're going down to Gabis, a city
in the Southern part of the country.
[00:11:39.120] - Marie Lapidus
Okay. You get to really... You've gotten the experience to do theater, and you get
the experience to travel internationally and show off our musicals, which is exciting.
My next question for you is, your work with Jaxx also focuses on helping students
with different abilities to be involved. How did you get started with that, and what
does that mean?
[00:12:03.440] - Jeremy Lucas
Ironically, or not, our first registrant, the first student who ever registered, her
name was Elizabeth Langworthy. She's got to be in... She's probably near 30 now. She
has down syndrome. I remember with our cofounders, who has experience working with
that and if we were prepared to do that and talking to the parents. It was a definite
yes. That paved the way for a long period of time of having students with different
abilities. We had students with Echolalia and all different types of autism all over
the spectrum. It was really just a win-win because the arts were their savior. They
were able to express themselves so freely and especially our student with Echolalia,
which is you can repeat. He would often repeat Brittany Spears, and he would do it
so well, but he could do that with musical theater. He'd watch different performances
and be able to- Repeat. Repeat and really shine. It's like if he was pretty nonverbal,
he could sing like a bird. There was a long period of time where Jaxx had all different
kinds of students. We don't as much anymore. We still are fully inclusive, and we
still do have students with different abilities, but it was more at the beginning
of Jaxx when we had a lot. It was very special.
[00:13:46.220] - Jeremy Lucas
It was really cool.
[00:13:47.670] - Marie Lapidus
Yes, I was on your website and I was reading about your theater and how inclusive
you really are and how you welcome everybody. It's really special, I think, because
I feel like in Hollywood, at least, and maybe on Broadway, I don't really know because
I'm not a theater person, but it feels like there's this very particular look and
very particular ability that you have to have. And I think maybe in theater, it's
a little bit different because theater is live versus on TV or in movies. But it's
so great to be able to offer people who of different abilities to have the same experiences
and show them off and the abilities that they may have that we don't even realize.
I think that that's fantastic that you're giving them that opportunity. So it'll be
also fabulous to see them as distinguished alumni come back after they've been participating
in theater as well. It's so exciting. I really like that about what you're doing.
Before you had that first student, did you ever even think that that would be the
path that you would be taking?
[00:14:57.070] - Jeremy Lucas
No, definitely not. I didn't. It was my day job from acting was I worked for a company
in Los Angeles doing the same thing, musical theater with kids. That was the first
time I realized it was something that I could do and was an opportunity for me and
something I really enjoyed doing. I love showing anyone, really kids to adults. I
really love American. I love musical theater. I love American musical theater. I'm
a total theater kid, a Broadway nerd. So getting to share that is a gift and a dream.
So I really enjoy it. But no, I had no idea that that was inside me.
[00:15:44.130] - Marie Lapidus
So your development as an entrepreneur into figuring out your target markets. Sorry,
I'm a business professor (laughs). Like your target markets and all of that. So how
do you feel about you being an entrepreneur and starting a nonprofit and doing all
of these wonderful things that you do?
[00:16:04.730] - Jeremy Lucas
It's a lot of work. I have so much to thanks to my husband, who's sitting across the
room from me right now. JD, he's our managing director. I'm the artistic director.
We're a great team. We love working together. He's just as passionate as I am. We're
blessed. We get to do what we love. We have an adult theater. That sounds weird (laughs).
We have a professional theater component as well. We're doing Rent right now. This
past year, we've done Andrew Lippa's Wildparty Chess. Now we're doing Rent. Kids,
adults, it's a gift that we're getting to do all this, and we truly love it.
[00:16:46.950] - Marie Lapidus
Okay. Personal question. What's your favorite musical?
[00:16:50.310] - Jeremy Lucas
West Side Story. West Side Story. What's yours?
[00:16:53.880] - Marie Lapidus
Not a huge musical, I suppose. But I will say Sound of Music. I don't know. Do we
consider that a musical?
[00:17:05.840] - Jeremy Lucas
Yes.
[00:17:06.170] - Marie Lapidus
Yes, right? Because there's a lot of music and dancing. Rodgers of Hammerstein. Yes.
Victor Victoria. Julie Andrews, I think, just overall is somebody I would watch in
just about anything, so whatever that she's doing. I don't know beyond that. I think
my friend really loves Kinky Boots, so I have not seen that one.
[00:17:31.280] - Jeremy Lucas
Really fun.
[00:17:31.990] - Marie Lapidus
Yes. She has dragged me to some musicals, but I don't know. There's some that I just
really love, and some I'm just thinking, yeah, no.
[00:17:41.680] - Jeremy Lucas
Right.
[00:17:42.420] - Marie Lapidus
So today you're going to be officially our 2024 Distinguished Alumni. What does that
mean to you?
[00:17:53.910] - Jeremy Lucas
It's an honor and a privilege. Also something I never expected. I was telling Lauren
that I'm doing Rent right now, and the cast of Rent, the musical, is younger, and
they call me Father Jaxx. That, coupled with this Distinguished Alumni Award, I feel
like I've entered a new era of the elder who should have wisdom. Hopefully, I do.
It's ....What an honor. What an honor and what a fun new era I'm moving into as an
elder person of the theater.
[00:18:38.570] - Marie Lapidus
I don't think you're elder. I think that's for way longer ahead of us, way into the
future. But I think that-
[00:18:48.610] - Jeremy Lucas
You're kind.
[00:18:49.150] - Marie Lapidus
Well, I think it's probably that you're entering the stage of mastery, right? You're
from growing into the mastery where you can now share with everybody else the mastery
that you have. So let's call it that.
[00:19:04.340] - Jeremy Lucas
I like that.
[00:19:05.360] - Marie Lapidus
Right. The mastery stage, not the elder stage. But that's all about how you view age.
I am the person who says whatever age I woke up today, that's the age I am.
[00:19:19.220] - Jeremy Lucas
Right. I like that. Yes.
[00:19:20.520] - Marie Lapidus
So I want to take that. I love that. And I'll give you that as well. Thank you. Whatever
age you want to be today, that's your age. Thank you.
[00:19:27.070] - Jeremy Lucas
Edit out everything about the years. Exactly.
[00:19:31.140] - Marie Lapidus
Next question that we do typically closer as we're wrapping up, but I think you might
have a lot of advice for us. So we ask all our guests on the show, what advice do
you have for current Harper students?
[00:19:47.100] - Jeremy Lucas
This is great because I just spoke to Kevin Long's acting class, and so I'm going
to say the same thing, but it's to do, especially current Harper College students
and all the way into definitely throughout your 20s, do everything you can in terms
of do all the shows you can, audition for everything. Don't turn down the ensemble
roles. Do the ensemble roles. Study, study, study. Take acting classes. I understand
that there's some things that Harper has here, some things they don't have. If you
don't have dance classes, go find the dance classes in the community. Ask for scholarships
if you need having an arts education school, 99.9% of the time we'll give the scholarship
or give the discount, or if you need the financial aid, we will give it. I know other
schools will do that, too. Study, study, study, get the voice teacher. You can't afford
the voice teacher. There's so many things you can find online to work on your voice
and work on your craft, especially now ...That I didn't have growing up, obviously.
That, study, be prepared, and audition for everything, and do everything. Don't take
all the work you can because it will lead to something else, and every experience
will make you better.
[00:21:14.250] - Marie Lapidus
That is really great advice. I do want to ask you, as a master and experienced person
in this art form of acting, what are some of the different opportunities? I mean,
you are doing a different opportunity of running your own theater company and providing
all of this education and being able to travel and do all of that, all tied to theater.
People think, Oh, theater, I'm never going to make any money. What do you see as a
professional in that arena as opportunities for students?
[00:21:47.220] - Jeremy Lucas
Yeah, I was telling them, additionally, if there's something else in the theater that
interests them other than just being on stage, not that they can't be on stage. They
absolutely can and will if they put their heart and soul into it. But we need lighting
designers, and we need sound engineers, and we need arts administrators, arts administration
people, and stage managers. There's all these other different kinds of jobs in theater
or in film or in music. If you want to be involved in the arts in some way, you can.
If there's anything, any of the costume design, if any of that stuff interests you,
pursue that. Then that's another avenue to make a career or your side hustle, your
day job. We're working with an actress right now who loves performing, but her day
job is stage managing. That's fantastic that she can do the art, which often sometimes
doesn't pay as much as stage managing or lighting designers and sound engineers, specifically.
If you have any technical interest, you'll always work if you have those skills. There's
a number of things that you can do to work in theater and in the arts. And film, all
the same thing.
[00:23:11.320] - Jeremy Lucas
Film, there's all the different aspects of making a film, editing, all kinds of things.
You can do it. If you want to do it, you absolutely can.
[00:23:22.610] - Marie Lapidus
Well, I hope all our students are listening because we have all of that. We have all
of those programs, the technical side of video production an audio production, theater,
being on the radio and even doing that is an experience as well. So that's really
great. That's really, I think, great advice for our students to just really be broad
in all the experiences that they have. And even if you are focused on going into theater
or movies or acting or whatever, just broaden your horizons and make sure you know
something else that can work with you as you go and be involved in that theater that
you love in some other aspect. That's really exciting. Thank you for coming on the
show.
[00:24:07.000] - Jeremy Lucas
Thank you for having me.
[00:24:08.190] - Marie Lapidus
We're very happy to have you here. I think it's very exciting to have our alumni come
back and tell the students about their experiences and opportunities that they have
and show them just different paths that everybody takes to get to wherever they are.
[00:24:23.490] - Marie Lapidus
Jeremy Lucas is a Harper College graduate, co founder of Jaxx Theatricals, and now
a Harper College Distinguished Alumni. If you've enjoyed Harper Talks, please subscribe.
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